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Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:38 am
Edited on: March 7, 2012 7:23 pm
 

Temple’s football program is returning to the Big East this fall, sources told CBSSports.com.

The Big East’s presidents voted Wednesday morning to add the Owls as all-sports members, but only Temple’s football program will join in 2012. The Owls’ Olympic sports won’t join the Big East until a year later for the 2013-14 school year.

The Big East officially announced Temple's move in a Wednesday press conference.

A source told CBSSports.com that the Big East will pay for the Owls' $7 million in exit fees. Temple must pay the Mid-American Conference $6 million and the Atlantic 10 $1 million.

Temple was an original member of the Big East’s football conference from 1991-2004 until it was dismissed from the league for not being competitive and unable to meet certain financial requirements.

The Big East already had received a commitment from Temple that the Owls would join the Big East in football in 2012, sources told CBSSports.com last week. But the Big East had its presidents formally rubberstamp it in Wednesday’s meeting in New York.

After Temple’s dismissal from the Big East, the Owls were an independent for two seasons before joining the Mid-American Conference in 2007. Temple will pay the MAC $6 million to leave with less than one year's notice. The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported that amount, which is more than double what MAC by-laws require teams to pay ($2.5 million) with two year’s notice.

Temple also must pay the Atlantic 10, where its Olympic sports compete, $1 million to leave after next season. It would have cost $2 million to leave before this season.

The addition of Temple was crucial for the Big East which needed an eighth football program to replace West Virginia, which joins the Big 12 this summer. Without West Virginia, the Big East’s teams would have had only six conference games each. With Temple, each Big East team will have seven league games – as it has since 2005.

If the Owls take West Virginia’s place on the Big East schedule, the Owls will have Big East home games against Syracuse, Rutgers, Cincinnati and South Florida and league road games at UConn, Pittsburgh and Louisville. The Big East's football schedule should be released in the coming days.

The Big East initially wanted Boise State, which will join the league in 2013, to join the Big East in 2012. However, the Broncos could not afford to pay the approximate $10 million in exit fees to leave the Mountain West and WAC early and the Big East was not willing to pay for the Broncos’ early move, sources told CBSSports.com.

The addition of Temple, which shares its home stadium at Lincoln Financial Field with the Philadelphia Eagles, gives the Big East three teams that play their home games in an NFL stadium. The others are Pittsburgh/Pittsburgh Steelers and South Florida/Tampa Bay Bucs.

With Temple on board in 2012, the Big East’s football membership this fall will consist of Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse and Temple. The 15-team basketball membership in 2012-13 will consist of: Cincinnati, UConn, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, Syracuse, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova.

The reason Temple's Olympic sports didn't join the Big East until 2013 was for logistical reasons.

"We're using the current year as a transition year in order to analyze what we can by hiring a consultant to explore how we can best exploit the marketplace moving forward," Big East commissioner John Marinatto said. "And as I said earlier, to retain each school's individual identity, a brand that Villanova has worked on for over three decades with the Big East and how to incorporate and associate that with Temple.

"So for the next 12 months, what we're going to do is with the two institutions, the conference's initiative, explore how we best move forward in order to ensure that we accomplish that because it's in the best interest of the conference obviously for the two schools to coexist in a very, very positive way, and one of the things we want to do is ensure that's the case by doing this."

The league will look much different in the 2013-14 school year. The football league could consist of up to 14 schools: Boise State, Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, San Diego State, SMU, South Florida, Syracuse, Temple and UCF. However, Pittsburgh and Syracuse, who are scheduled to leave for the ACC in 2014, want to exit the Big East in 2013. If they do leave early, it would drop the football membership to 12 schools.

If Pittsburgh and Syracuse remain in the Big East until 2014, the Big East's basketball league in 2013-14 would consist of 20 teams: Cincinnati, UConn, Houston, Louisville, Memphis, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, South Florida, SMU, Syracuse, Temple, UCF, DePaul, Georgetown, Marquette, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, St. John’s and Villanova. That number would be reduced to 18 basketball members if Pittsburgh and Syracuse left early.

Also, Navy will join the Big East as a football-only member in 2015.



Comments

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: March 12, 2012 10:46 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

dcpirate28..........You have a very good post and spot-on for your examples.  I have said all along that the BIG EAST missed the boat when they failed to include EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY and the UNIVERSITY of SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI into their new expansion program, rather than go way oit west.  Southern Miss would have benefitted both HOUSTON and SMU, and EAST CAROLINA is right smack in the middle of their east coast footprint.
Thanks for your imput. 



Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: March 12, 2012 8:37 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

If you look at overall records for the past 10 seasons Boise leads the nation. Yes the Broncos loose Kellen Moore but so what, I think Boises succcess is more about the coaching and system than the individual talents they produce. The Broncos dont sign 5 star talent they get the leftovers and execute better than most.

I think with the departure of WVU, Syracuse, and Pitt, whatever chance The Big East had of holding onto the AQ is over and I think the conference officials came to that same conclusion with the addition of Memphis and Temple. You had teams like Nevada who has been to 7 straight Bowl Games, Southern Miss who has 18 straight non loosing seasons, ECU with 5 straight bowl appearences and the largest attendence numbers of any Big East program not under any consideration for membership. You cant add a 5-32 Memphis team and expect the rest of the college football world to take notice. This expansion was about marketing you have a team in Boise that gets good ratings and the rest of the programs hail from cities that are large in size. With networks desperate for programing perhaps someone will give these guys a better TV deal but I dont see it being anywhere near what the 5 other AQ leagues got.



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: March 11, 2012 11:25 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

"While I grant you Boise State has been a great program for several years, they are about to discover what life it like without Kellen Moore. Additionally, the Big East is betting they won't lose AQ status. If they do, Boise & SDSU have no reason to join the conference.  Why do you think they drug their heels on joining the conference this year? It gives them one more year to evaluate the football landscape."

People seem to forget that Kellen Moore and Co. didn't play in the 2007 Fiesta Bowl.  The point is that Boise State has produced great seasons without the current departing team and even though Boise isn't snagging the top recruits in the country, each class of recruits is more talented than the previous.  I have no doubt that this will be a rebuilding year for boise state but then again I remember all of the people who said Boise State wouldn't be able to compete in the 2011 season due to the losses of Austin Pettis and Tidus Young at the WR spots.  Guess what, Matt Miller was a true freshman this year and I watched the guy play and he definitely has an edge over the two aforementioned when you compare their freshman seasons.  The point is that there will be some learning with so many freshman on the team but the team on the field next year also has more raw natural talent than what has proceeded them.  As for the AQ status, everyone knows that all AQs are probably on the chopping block in the near future, so I don't think anyone is counting on that beyond the one season.  For the record Boise State didn't drag it's heels on joining this year.  The Big East couldn't justify spending $10 mil on one season of football and neither could Boise State.  Boise State did have things all set to go with the WAC for their other sports just in case it went through, so they were prepared for the jump if someone would fork over the cash.  Even without AQ Boise State and SDSU aren't sold that the Big East isn't any better off than that monster of anywhere from 16-32 non-aq teams (half of them with overall losing records).  Despite the potential loss of media market appeal with the Big East, does anyone really think that a conference where the likes of Tulane, Rice, New Mexico, UNLV, UAB, etc. make up half of the market is really going to do better.  Furthermore the genius who ran the MWC into the ground with it's crappy cluster mess of ESPN, CBS Sports, Versus, and the Mtn (which a number of providers don't even carry) is the number one candidate to run this new conference.  Do you think BSU and SDSU are going to trust this guy to give them a better deal given the fact that the best teams are gone from the MWC (and half of the good ones from C-USA)?  Media money and exposure were the reasons that BSU and SDSU cited for the move and while I could see a weakened Big East doing better than $1.9 mil a year MAX, I can't see the new alliance (given the teams) doing much better than $2 mil a year per team. 



Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: March 11, 2012 11:27 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

The Big East must be doing something right to attract so
many nay sayers to comment!  I think
along with adding Memphis and Temple basketball to replace Syracuse and Pitt
basketball and adding Boise football to replace West Virginia football the
conference would be coming out even. (Seriously Syracuse and Pitt football has
been about the same AQ quality as Duke, Colorado to name just two.) To add the
additional football teams as SDST, MSU, Houston puts the conference ahead of
where it was this time last year.  I
think the next step is to negotiate a media contract with someone other than
ESPN.  ESPN is clearly over the Big East
and the conference deserves a media network that values its product.




Since: Oct 31, 2011
Posted on: March 10, 2012 6:01 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

The Big East is expected to host multiple teams from 2012 MWC as well as BYU at their next meeting, teams expected to be in attendance from mWC are Air Force, Nevada and Fresno. BE is looking to get atleast 2 more WEST division teams for between now and 2015 when Navy and possibly Villianova join the East.




Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: March 10, 2012 3:14 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

The Big East is moving forward. In many ways this "New" Big East is much improved over what it is now as a football conference. Having only 8 members is very difficult to consistently be competitive with conferences that have 10-12.

You have an odd view of "moving forward". You lose Miami, Va Tech, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College, and West Virginia. You replace them with Boise State, San Diego State, a smattering of teams from conference USA, Villinova, and Temple. You also have a twisted idea of "much improved."

While I grant you Boise State has been a great program for several years, they are about to discover what life it like without Kellen Moore. Additionally, the Big East is betting they won't lose AQ status. If they do, Boise & SDSU have no reason to join the conference.  Why do you think they drug their heels on joining the conference this year? It gives them one more year to evaluate the football landscape.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2012 7:45 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

The big least trying to pad its football teams they lose their best teams now bring on the patsies.



Since: Oct 31, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2012 12:15 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

From Press conerence: Q. Navy doesn't come on board until 2015, so does that kind of is there a window then to add another football school to balance the division? JOHN MARINATTO: Yeah, it's our intention to obviously have equal divisions of seven moving forward, and over the course of the time between now and our television negotiations, as we better position ourselves to attract a quality 14th partner in football, we'll be looking to move forward in that direction. We want to get to even divisions, and I think we're looking specifically for a western partner to help us with that.         Can we get here comes Air Force tak up again?




Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: March 8, 2012 1:42 pm
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

Bigdaddy

I get your point however there are plenty of programs that have AQ standing that dont deserve it. Boise has the best football record of any school over the last 10 years and has been a non AQ program. Does Duke, Washington State, Indiana, or Vandy put a better product on the field? I dont think so.



Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: March 8, 2012 11:24 am
 

Big East adds Temple as an all sports member

WVU_93............You are exactly right about TEMPLE saving the BIG EAST this year; Just like WVU saved the BIGXII this year, classic.


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