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Notre Dame football remaining independent

Posted on: December 8, 2011 1:50 pm
Edited on: December 8, 2011 1:54 pm
 

NEW YORK – Notre Dame to the ACC? Notre Dame to the Big Ten? How about Notre Dame to the Big 12 or SEC?

It’s not going to happen, Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick said Thursday.

The Irish plan to remain an independent in football and are confident with the future of the Big East after the league introduced five new members Wednesday. The majority of Notre Dame’s non-football schools compete in the Big East, which allows Notre Dame to be an independent in football.

However, there had been some speculation that because of the league's uncertainty, Notre Dame might be forced to join another conference in football.

“We’re thrilled with the announcement of the Big East’s new members and we think it delivers on the (league’s) stability,” Swarbrick told CBSSports.com. “It’s great news for the Big East and it’s a great home for us for most of our sports.”

The Big East announced Wednesday Boise State and San Diego State would join the league in football-only in 2013 and add Houston, UCF and SMU in all sports. By the Big East remaining together, it allows Notre Dame to compete as a Big East member in virtually all sports but football, while remaining a football independent.

“Father (John) Jenkins was trying to provide leadership to help the Big East navigate through this period of time,” Swarbrick said of Notre Dame’s president. “We welcome the new Big East members and we think it speaks to the future vitality and stability of the Big East.”

With the addition of Houston, UCF and SMU in 2013 and if West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse remain in the league until June 30, 2014 as scheduled, that means during the 2013-14 school year the Big East would have at least 19 basketball members.

“It doesn’t scare me,” Swarbrick said. “You could figure out a way to set up the schedule. The amount of time they’ve spent determining how many teams will play in the Big East tournament is another story. I think it’s manageable.”

Swarbrick said he would defer to the conference whether West Virginia, Pittsburgh and Syracuse should be allowed to leave a year early in 2013 when the new members are added.

The biggest question Swarbrick said he gets from the media and when he travels around the country at speaking engagements is whether the Irish will remain an independent in football.

He estimated he speaks each year at between 80-100 Notre Dame clubs or fundraisers in association with a Fighting Irish game.

“You can’t do a Q/A without one of those (questions about if Notre Dame is joining a conference),” Swarbrick said. “They (Notre Dame’s fan base) are pretty clear: they want status quo and national championships.

“It’s easy,” he joked.

Status quo as a football independent and national championships.

“But not in that order, that’s exactly right,” Swarbrick said.

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Feanes
Since: Nov 29, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 11:50 am
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Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: December 9, 2011 11:35 am
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

I don't see what the Big Deal of them joining the Big East is. They would probably be allowed to have every ND home game televised on NBC then all the away games would be on NBC, ESPN, or CBS so the money is still there. ND could keep BC, USC, Michingan St, Michigan as non conference foes.



Since: Feb 27, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 10:53 am
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

Please tell me how ND schedules "soft". I do not have an issue with much, but this I do.

-USC: one of the best teams in the country

- Stanford: BCS bowl bound


-Michigan: BCS bowl bound


- Michigan State: Big 10 runner up...



Yeah, that is surely soft.           
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Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: December 9, 2011 9:59 am
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

SSDD. Really, who cares? I've been an Irish fan for 23 years, I understand the pros and cons of joining a conference, I've heard all the same arguments over and over. It's a double edged sword, ND stays Ind, they "schedule soft" ND joins a conference, they lose every year to "superior opponents" (some are legit, don't get me wrong). My big question (and hope) is what actually happens if they ever get back to the top again (long shot, but I still ask)?



Since: Nov 4, 2011
Posted on: December 9, 2011 12:22 am
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

Sorry to have used such a strong word Buford. The point I am trying to make is that ND is not riding anyone's coattails. ND and the BE entered into a mutually acceptable agreement. At any time it is no longer mutual the other BE schools will vote out the current arrangement. Until they do, it can be assumed that it is still a mutually beneficial agreement. Of course there are a few coaches or even institutions within the BE that may be against the agreement, but the BE is a democracy and when the majority feels that way then the agreement will be no longer. Again, I apologize for the name-calling Buford. My bad.

This paragraph is not in particualr aimed towards Buford, but is rather a general response to all the posts. It is beyond me why so many people are so enraged that ND has this relationship with the BE but nobody cares that BYU has the same deal. Temple also belongs to the MAC for football only. It is hard to come to any other conclusion than so many hate ND. I personally don't know why anyone would care what another team's arrangements are. Root for your team. If you don't like how ND or BYU or Temple are doing things, one would have to explain to me how you could be a fan of teams who are in football conferences that are poaching each others teams. I hardly think that is the superior position. Those institutions and those conferences are doing what is in their best interests. ND is simply doing the same. Being indepencent in FB is simply what they want to be. Again, hard to come to any other conclusion as to why.



Since: Feb 27, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:20 pm
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

Let's clear up myths about the ND situation:


- They do ahve their own TV deal, however, the deal for ND on TV is worse than most schools in most big conferences. If I am not mistaken it is about 9 million a year.


- I would agree, ND is a National University with a national following. Being independent allows them to schedule games all over the country and maintain some traditional games- USC, Michigan, Mich State, BC, etc etc.


- It's actually harder for ND to get into a BCS bowl. They have to be in the top 12 to get in.


I would agree, ND is not a national power. If they aren't, why do haters care? Facts are facts, ND isn't for everyone. They don't take juco transfers, they don't take guys who have questions marks whether they will qualify or not. You have to live on campus, and there are only 8000 students. ND's biggest question isn't whether to join a conference or not, it really needs to decide whether to be serious about football or not. To me, the all in question is whether to sacrifice some values (grades, character issues, living on campus) to field a winning team.




Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:12 pm
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

Notre Dame would no have a reason to join any conference under any circumstance. They have a BCS bowl game if they meet certain criteria. So they have a method to get into a BCS bowl game.

They have a national TV contract with NBC play a nation wide football schedule, and some of the top teams in the country. I know we give them their annual beat down in the last several years, even though we are on probation.

As far as recruiting is concern, if Notre Dame had no problem recruiting when Woody Hayes of Ohio State, Bo S of Michigan, Wilkerson at Oklahoma and Tom Osborne and Bob Delaney at Nebraska what would give you give you reason to think they would have a problem recruiting now. These schools are all within the same recruiting area as Notre Dame.

Recruiting was and will not be a problem for Notre Dame. Several years they were able to go to the West Coast and pull a top Quarterback from California. They have several 5 star recruits each year and according to stats this year would not be any different.

 

“ONE MAN’S OPINION”




Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:11 pm
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

Notre Dame would no have a reason to join any conference under any circumstance. They have a BCS bowl game if they meet certain criteria. So they have a method to get into a BCS bowl game.

They have a national TV contract with NBC play a nation wide football schedule, and some of the top teams in the country. I know we give them their annual beat down in the last several years, even though we are on probation.

As far as recruiting is concern, if Notre Dame had no problem recruiting when Woody Hayes of Ohio State, Bo S of Michigan, Wilkerson at Oklahoma and Tom Osborne and Bob Delaney at Nebraska what would give you give you reason to think they would have a problem recruiting now. These schools are all within the same recruiting area as Notre Dame.

Recruiting was and will not be a problem for Notre Dame. Several years they were able to go to the West Coast and pull a top Quarterback from California. They have several 5 star recruits each year and according to stats this year would not be any different.

 

“ONE MAN’S OPINION”




Since: Dec 8, 2011
Posted on: December 8, 2011 11:05 pm
 

Notre Dame football remaining independent

The correct title should be "Notre Dame remaining isignificant."


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