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Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Posted on: November 26, 2011 10:24 pm
Edited on: November 26, 2011 10:31 pm

With BYU officially out of the picture for the Big East, the league has begun negotiations with San Diego State about the Aztecs joining the league as a football-only member, college football industry sources told Saturday night.

On Tuesday, first reported that the Big East would target San Diego State after the league had decided to “move on” and no longer pursue BYU.

The San Diego Tribune first reported Saturday night negotiations had begun between the Big East and San Diego State.

The Big East is talking with the Aztecs because Boise State wants a guarantee of a “Western partner” before joining the league. The Broncos, along with Houston, SMU, UCF and Navy, are all ready to join the Big East, but Boise State is waiting for the Big East to secure a Western partner and Houston, SMU and UCF are waiting to join with Boise State.

Navy has told Boise State, SMU, Houston and UCF it definitely will join, sources said, but are waiting on those schools as well.

Air Force, which remains a football-only target of the Big East, remains undecided.

San Diego State, Boise State and Navy would join as football only members, while SMU, Houston and UCF would be all-sports members. San Diego State and Boise State could place its Olympic sports in the Big West.

None of the new Big East schools would join the league until the 2013 school year, sources told


Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 2:25 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.  Has anyone looked at Memphis' football record in total or over the last few years?  What's that?  They have only won 6 games in the last 3 seasons?  In case you haven't noticed the Big East is TRYING to add some winning/ranked teams to their conference and Memphis has a long way to go before they can qualify on that score.  Temple has been improving but still has an overall record of .437 and after having been kicked out of the BE for lack of performance is kind of a hot potato.  Southern Miss shows promise as well but losing to UAB DOES NOT inspire tons of confidence.  East Carolina had a great season in 2008, but since then has struggled to break even.  Navy has a long tradition and good history and large fanbase so I agree with you there.  UCF, SMU and Houston have all shown promise as well but those 4 teams are already being targeted so that is a moot point.  The point is that you can't save your conference by adding a bunch of middle tier or bottom feeder programs that do nothing to add credibility.  It's time to quit thinking about geography and thinking about survival as far as the Big East is concerned.  Hence Boise State is a VERY logical choice on that front.  They have been a top 10 team for the last 3 seasons and top 25 for more than that.  No other team in the proposed list has come even close to that. 

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 2:05 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

All I can say with BE realignment; the Commiss of the BE is certainly off his rocker looking at SDSU as a possible football member. SDSU is a good school,but it just does not fit in the BE, as well as Boise State. Expand the BE conference by adding Houston, SMU, Southern Miss., UCF, Temple, East Carolina, Navy and Memphis.  This would make more sense for an eastern football league.

Since: Apr 3, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 12:39 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

As an SDSU Alumn and one who pays his Alumn dues and LOVES SDSU Football (Former walk on), I would NOT like to see SDSU join as football ONLY..... that mean our Basket Ball team who has been making noise for the past half decade would get snubbed and dropped to a lower conference like Big West or Big Sky. That I do NOT like. Now if SDSU can some how broker a deal to at least include BBALL to Big East now then that's INTRESTING. Doors would be open to east coast recruits and for any west coast players who would like to play against BE schools i'm sure they would consider and look at SDSU basketball BIG TIME, since they could play Big East BBALL and not have to leave 3,000 miles to do so.

My own thoughts if I could speak to SDSU AD and President would be simply to say.... No BasketBall NO DEAL. As is now, SDSU basketball could compete and beat current BE schools. We lost to 2 schools last season BYU who had national player of the year and UCONN who became national Champs, lost to NO ONE else. SDSU Basket Ball is ready for Big Time juts like Boise St football is ready for the Big Time in football.

SDSU basket ball could make up for what BE is loosing in that area also with Pitt,Syracuse and W.Virginia bolting.......

Since: Sep 1, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:56 am

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Guys please do a little research before you post. In what way is conference USA in better than the Big East. Conference USA has about four good TV markets in which two are wanting to bolt to the Big East.  The conference also only has five of twelve teams bowl eligible as opposed to the Big East have five out of nine with better records and schedules. The Big East markets like Rutgers smash any market argument with conference USA so to say their in better shape than the Big East is not intelligent.

I don't think anyone likes all this shuffling but this new model seems better than the old Big East watching South Florida play Syracuse was murder.  I think I would actually watch Boise St vs Houston games.

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 8:15 am

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Jesterrace!! There are a few reasons why fans keep bringing up Memphis. The Big East is trying to add some solid football schools, but they are also looking at the TV Markets and schools that can provide some new recruiting grounds. The main reason i have said all along that they should pick Memphis is for thier B-Ball program. Losing Pitt and Syracuse in football really didn't hurt the Big East that much, but when you look at the B-Ball side of it, and the lost of WVU B-Ball also, it hurt a bunch. Adding Memphis would bring back some of that loss. As for recruiting grounds, adding Memphis would give the Big East a new recruiting region that the schools in the Big East has never been able to recruit very well.

I believe the school that you have mention about being rank must be Boise St. I don't think the Big East would want to trade out  for Boise, they just need Boise to say they are in and quit worring about a western partner.

Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 28, 2011 1:14 am

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

I love the geniuses who keep bringing Memphis up.  Memphis has won. . .6 games in the last 3 seasons and has an overall losing record in it's history.  Why would anyone in their right mind trade that (regardless of geography) for the opportunity to add a team that has ranked over the last several years and has one of the best overall records of any college football team.  Temple is definitely improving but still has a ways to go IMHO.  SDSU definitely needs some work but has shown promise these last couple of seasons. 

Since: Apr 27, 2009
Posted on: November 27, 2011 11:59 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

The Big East is in it's death throes as a football conference.

Boise and Houston just want the guaranteed BCS bid, which will crash when the BCS does.

Big East should stick to basketball, and leave football to the big boys.

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: November 27, 2011 4:10 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Hey M-King you're remark about San Diego to the PAC 12, made me think of something. I don't know if the Big 12 would be interest in San Diego, but to me that would not be a bad pick. San Diego is not that far from the Texas Schools and that would open up a new recruiting ground for the Big 12. Unlike the Big East, the Big 12 could recruit in that region of California. And the TV market becomes a bigger deal. I'm a WVU fan and i would like to see the Big 12 expand to 12 Teams and 2 Divisions and maybe bring in Louisville, but i'm not sold on the idea of adding Cincinnati. BYU want waiver on their tv deal so they won't be coming, and Boise brings nothing to the table for the Big 12 except a good team. No Market and no recruiting grounds. And the Texas schools are not going to let in another Texas team. When you look at were the Big 12 could make a move, San Diego might be a nice add for the Big 12.

Since: May 9, 2007
Posted on: November 27, 2011 3:44 pm

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

Id, i not disagreeing with you one bit. But how the conference see things if the can get their foot in socal recuriting it might be worth the effort to them. I 100 percent think Temple and E. Carolina should be Big East schools at the minimum. But they already have Philly to recruit out of with their B-ball presence with Nova and Rutgers in F-ball.

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: November 27, 2011 11:47 am

Big East, San Diego State begin discussions

M-King  First off recruits from the your rich pool of recruits are not going to sign with any team in the Big East, they may get 1 every now and then but not many thats worth anything. We all know where all the better recruits from California will go. Memphis, Philly, Eastern Carolina would bring in a much better new recruiting ground than San Diego would. And the TV Market that would be better. Fans in California are not going to watch a Big East game that San Diego is not playing in. I don't even think they would watch a Boise game unless its was one of the better matchup games.
 San Diego St. is a good School, the Big East could do a lot worst in adding a School. Good football and B-Ball. But my opinion is that Schools like Memphis, East Carolina, Southern Miss,Tulsa, Temple would be a better add for the Big East.Adding San Diego would not benifit the Big East. The Big East would have never even consider them, if Boise wasn't asking for a Bridesmaid.

As for your remark about the PAC 12 inviting San Diego and Boise St., not going to happen. 

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