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Big East done pursuing BYU

Posted on: November 22, 2011 4:08 pm
Edited on: November 22, 2011 8:28 pm
 

The Big East has decided "to move on" and is no longer pursuing BYU as a conference member, college football industry sources told CBSSports.com Tuesday.

Earlier Tuesday morning, sources previously had told CBSSports.com that unless BYU decided to relinquish its television rights for its home football games, the Cougars would not join the Big East. The Cougars would not do so.

"The Big East has moved on," a source said about the prospect of adding BYU.

The Cougars had been in discussions with the Big East for weeks about joining the league. In the earlier negotiations between BYU and the Big East, BYU did not have an issue with relinquishing its home television rights. That changed, however.

"They (BYU) are being extremely unreasonable all of a sudden," a source said Tuesday morning. "This is one reason why they did not get into the Big 12. Their general counsel (lawyers) is a piece of work.”

With BYU out of the picture, the Big East will target San Diego State as a football-only member, a source said. The reason the Big East would seek out the Aztecs is because Boise State wants a Western partner before joining the league.

The Big East had hoped to announce its newest members (SMU, Houston, UCF and Boise State) in the past two weeks, but the on-going discussions with BYU brought the Big East’s expansion plans to a standstill. That’s because the league wanted to announce SMU, UCF, Houston and Boise State as new members together along with either BYU or Air Force or both schools.

Air Force does not plan to make a decision until after the regular season ends on Saturday, a source said.

Navy also is waiting for the other schools to join before fully committing to the league.

“It’s like everyone standing by the pool, waiting for someone to jump in before everyone else jumps in,” a source said.

On Oct. 25, CBSSports.com first reported that the Western contingent of possible future Big East members was making a push to add BYU.

Two weeks ago, a source told CBSSports.com San Diego State was pursuing a football-only membership with the Big East. San Diego State had previously pursued membership in the Big 12.

Houston, SMU, UCF and Boise State are committed to joining the Big East. Navy also has told those four schools, who CBSSports.com reported were working in concert to join the league, it also is committed to the Big East. With those five schools, the league will still need two more football schools to get to a 12-team league. Those possibilities now are San Diego State and Air Force with the 12-team league split in a West and East division.

BYU athletic director Tom Holmoe and coach Bronco Mendenhall were said to favor a move to the Big East, but BYU President Cecil Samuelson and the school’s general counsel weren't as receptive. That was unless the Cougars could have retained their home television rights, which is unheard of for a conference school.

If the Big East gave up the television rights to BYU’s home games, it would have reduced the amount the Big East could seek in its upcoming negotiations for its new media rights deal with either ESPN, NBC-Comcast and/or Fox.

There are no schools in any of the BCS AQ conferences that retain their home television rights, only those schools that are independents. BYU is in its first year as an independent after leaving the Mountain West and last year signed an eight-year deal with ESPN, which would have to be reworked if the Cougars joined the Big East.

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Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: November 25, 2011 11:47 am
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

With the teams commited and what is available to them I do not see how the BE will be able to even hold its BCS AQ.



Since: Nov 24, 2011
Posted on: November 24, 2011 12:35 pm
 

An different view...

It was widely reported going into discussions with the Big East that BYU would be able to have the best of both worlds: Conference scheduling and the BCS tie that went with it, and the ability to main their own TV rights.  Based on the recent Big XII talks, everyone knew there were things BYU would not budge on: Sunday play and TV Rights.  If BYU wouln't give these up for the full conference membership in the Big XII, why would they for a football only membership inthe Big East.  CBS Sports is only telling part of the story.  They forget the reason BYU went independent was because of a negative experiance with CBS to begin with...and let's not forget that ESPN and CBS are competitors...and BYU is currently enjoying their relationship with ESPN, as are all it fans who would not be able to see CBS regional coverage.

For a different view of why BYU is not going to join the Big East see: 



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 24, 2011 3:27 am
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

Lets get this done already.   BSU needs at least SDSU to make the deal.  BSU wanted a deal by the end of the month.  If all western schools are trying to win it will be a good division.  The Mountain West has a bad TV package and teams that do not want to win.   I think BSU just needs to start a new League.  Lets make some calls.  


Houston
SMU
Boise State
Utah State
San Diego State
Fresno State        
;
;  
Hawaii
AirForce
Nevada
Montana

This would be a good league all teams want to win.   I am just tossing out teams.  There are more teams who have something to add but the MWC/C-USA deal is a joke.   Something needs to happen.. "I need my Fix".


The problem is that half of those teams in there are already looking at the proposed Big East and the rest, well. . .

Montana is a moot point, they don't want to go FBS (the WAC offered and they declined last year)
Utah State-They showed some promise this season but ultimately they haven't had a breakout season in years, so no credibility there
Hawaii-A team that generally produces winning seasons but has a HORRIBLE TRACK RECORD against BCS opponents so they give little to no credibility to the schedule
Fresno State-Generally produces winning seasons and has been in the WAC since 1992, and although they have been co-champ 3 times (not since 1999 though) have never won the WAC outright.  This year they are 0-3 versus BCS opponents including Ole Miss played them in their back yard. 
Nevada-IMHO the only team listed that I feel would be a bit of a loss to Boise State by being left behind in the Big East move.  Then again they could be scheduled non-conference.  Nevada has shown some potential in the last couple of seasons (although arguably the 2010 Nevada team was the best football team the school has ever produced).

Either way with the exception of Nevada (and the teams already proposed for the Big East) none of them will add any credibilty to Boise's schedule/conference.  Boise can't keep playing their old WAC schedule and hope to grow and develop as a program.  They need new opponents and new challanges and given their options (or lack thereof), the proposed Big East is the best choice as if nothing else it gets rid of the bottom end of their schedule and puts them in a conference with a bunch of teams that either produce winning seasons or at least break even.  Yeah, I know it does nothing for perennial top 25, but given their options of staying in a conference with a crappy media deal that kills their exposure and leaves virtually no growth potential or getting a mil or the Big East, they are better off joining the conference. 

 




Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: November 23, 2011 11:27 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

Hey Take It Deep; bro, in 2011 you lost to a horrible Texas team, barely beat a 2-win Ole Miss squad and got blown out by the Utes. Congrats Cougs on winning the WAC 2nd division league and your claim of being the 2nd best power in Idaho with your blowouts over the Vandals and Idaho State. Have a great time in the Helicopter Classic on New Years Eve. I'm sure America will be getting juiced up for that epic struggle.



Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2011 7:34 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

As far as tge contract with ESPN, I am sure they understood and knew from the beginnng there would be possible problems with the current schedule  BYU was to play and had already scheduled. I am equally sure the contract call for an upgrade of the schedule to better teams in more than  just ne conference.

This would happen over a 3-5 year period of time, depending on the way the ontract was written.

Most of these people that are in a position to make contracts have analzed almost ever angle before the contract is even discussed with all the parties involved. They have normally taken the risk out with safeguards and ways to erminate the contract if certain mile stones are not met over a specific period of time.

I am sure BYU understand this situation. They had to have  taken this into consideration when they did not return calls to the Big East. I am sure one of the questions were, "How long would this conference be around?" Are we better off financially being an independent or would it be better for us to join the Big East?

Apparently the administrators, at BYU, thought they would be better off as an independent as far as scheduling. They would also be off financially as an independent.

I am also sure this decision was discussed with ESPN. This is  not a unilateral decision made independent of all involved in the sports department and other companies that might be involved.


  "ONE MAN'S OPINION"



Since: Sep 21, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 6:16 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

Lets get this done already.   BSU needs at least SDSU to make the deal.  BSU wanted a deal by the end of the month.  If all western schools are trying to win it will be a good division.  The Mountain West has a bad TV package and teams that do not want to win.   I think BSU just needs to start a new League.  Lets make some calls.  


Houston
SMU
Boise State
Utah State
San Diego State
Fresno State        
;  
Hawaii
AirForce
Nevada
Montana

This would be a good league all teams want to win.   I am just tossing out teams.  There are more teams who have something to add but the MWC/C-USA deal is a joke.   Something needs to happen.. "I need my Fix".
  
 



Since: Sep 5, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 5:26 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

Just goes to show how hard it is to get everyone on the same sheet of music.  BE people thought BYU was coming in.  But it appears that the BYU people had not agreed on what they were going to do.  Or how to do it.


I have been a BE fan since its beginning.  But I'm now tired of all the  posturing by the conference and the schools. 



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: November 23, 2011 4:32 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

The addition of these schools makes this conference a less talented ACC
is that even possible?



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: November 23, 2011 1:48 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

They would have to get rid of New Mexico, Colorado State and UNLV first and then add Houston, Tulsa and SMU as replacements.  In otherwords, not gonna happen.



Since: Oct 12, 2010
Posted on: November 23, 2011 1:19 pm
 

Big East done pursuing BYU

Why not just give the Mountain West the AQ the Big East has?


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