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Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

Posted on: October 26, 2011 10:54 pm
 
Big East commissioner John Marinatto and associate commissioner Nick Carparelli flew to Colorado Springs Wednesday to meet with Air Force officials and were scheduled to meet with Boise State officials in Boise, Idaho, on Thursday, a source told CBSSports.com.

Boise State and Air Force are among six schools the Big East hopes to add to replace the defections of Pittsburgh, Syracuse and TCU.

The Colorado Springs Gazette reported Marinatto and Carparelli met with Air Force superintendent Michael Gould, athletic director Hans Mueh and football coach Troy Calhoun on Wednesday.

Thursday’s meeting between Boise State and the Big East will be the second in five days. On Sunday, Boise State, along with officials from Navy, Houston, SMU and UCF met with Marinatto and representatives from other Big East schools in Washington D.C., CBSSports.com reported.

Air Force officials were not able to attend that meeting.

On Tuesday, the Big East’s presidents and chancellors have a meeting scheduled in Philadelphia, where they could give Marinatto the green light to add new members.

The addition of Boise State, Navy, Houston, SMU, UCF and Air Force would get the Big East up to 12 members – until West Virginia or Louisville leaves the league.

West Virginia appeared headed to the Big 12 when the league informed the Mountaineers Tuesday they would receive an official invitation to replace Missouri in the Big 12. However, later that day, the league contacted West Virginia and told the school they were undecided between WVU and Louisville.

A source told CBSSports.com the Big 12’s board of directors needed to “perform due diligence” before making a final decision.

The Dallas Morning News reported that the Big 12 also is considering adding both West Virginia and Louisville, which could prove fatal to the Big East’s hopes of retaining its BCS automatic qualifying status in 2014.

Oklahoma State uber-booster Boone Pickens told the Oklahoman Wednesday he had a concern with the distance between West Virginia and the other Big 12 schools.

“That's pretty isolated,” Pickens said. “To me, you go out here to West Virginia, you're going to go a long way. I didn't like the Pac-10 for that reason.”


Comments

Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 2:49 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

Temple, ECU and Houston would be better additions than SMU, Houston and UCF. I still don't understand why the Big East never considered UMass as they would have a good basketball team and an FBS football team next season as well as giving the Big East a Boston area school again after losing Boston College.



Since: Oct 6, 2011
Posted on: October 28, 2011 2:46 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

The Big East should let the 3 departing schools leave immediately if they pay an additional 5 million. It is stupid to have to play 2 lame duck seasons.



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 5:21 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

good teams? in the Big East?

 PLEASE, the Big East is already the BCS version of a welfare whore. ...living off the money of others and not producing anything of worth on their own. 


Yet the Big East has a better BCS record and more BCS wins than the ACC.  Why isn't there a uproar to take away their AQ status??  Oh, and when SU and Pitt leave, the Big East will still have more BCS wins than the ACC.  Welfare whore?  What a stupid remark.



Since: Jun 8, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 4:26 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

No but certainly a heck of a lot closer than Boise.  I'm an old time BE guys.  I liked the geographic proximity of the programs.  I guess I'm living in the past.
I like it too, but If they don't get a good football program in the Big East and soon .... you have a mediocre conference USA going for ya. They will lose the AQ status which is almost a given. THey need to get something and fast.



Since: Dec 21, 2009
Posted on: October 27, 2011 3:37 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

No but certainly a heck of a lot closer than Boise.  I'm an old time BE guys.  I liked the geographic proximity of the programs.  I guess I'm living in the past.



Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:58 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

It's amazing that last year and even this past summer many were speculating the demise of the Big 12. Then suddenly, with a change of heart by Oklahoma, a move by Syracuse and Pitt, and a shift by TCU, the Big 12 is now the "promised land". The experimental drugs given the Big East for a cure to their woes is extrordinary. Many criticize the Big East for these moves on this checkerboard we call FBS football. In many instances it seems insane if not doomed to fail. Make no mistake, the money generated from football keeps all other sports in play and is a necessity for some colleges to survive. It is hard to imagine that our traditional Saturday afternoons have transitioned to the cash cow that it is today. No longer limited to Saturday, college football can be viewed almost daily if not on the field in talk shows, interviews, and in the courts. Our insatiable appetite has grown by leaps and bounds. The electronic media and social media have given us instant access that Knute Rockne, Paul Bear Bryant, or Woody Hayes would never even occurred in their wildest dreams.

Okay, it's all about money, for sure. Blame ESPN/ABC, CBS Sports, Texas, Mssouri, the ACC, the SEC, the PAC 12 and so on for all this mess. Blame them for sure but understand that our society has brought this upon ourselves. Years ago in our small world of school rivalries it was not uncommon to travel to other schools in neighboring States to participate in friendly contests. Automobile travel was limited and few of us had even flown in a plane. Today, before leaving high school, many have traveled throughout the USA and Europe on numerous occassions. The world has become accessible to so many more at at such an early age.

So before we pass judgement on Boise St playing Rutgers is New Jersey or SMU battling South Florida in Tampa ask yourselves, what would you do to help your family survive? Isn't that what all these changes are about? I will always enjoy watching college football but like life, change is inevitable, and to continue my enjoyment I must adapt.

We need the Big East, if only for the variety, and my hopes are that they are successful in keeping the conference together regardless of the distance traveled. I might not like it initally but it could form new rivalries and be even more entertaining than "in my wildest dreams".



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:35 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

smiles id states:

"Yes, one showing how to get to the bank.  This is all about money, not geography.  As a Boise fan, we've been down this road before, all excited about going to the MWC, only to see Utah, BYU and TCU hit the exits.  Now we have to decide whether or not to abandon our seat yet again for the next round of musical chairs.

I, for one, would like the Big East to guarantee this:

* the status of WVU, Louisville and any other rats looking to escape the Titanic.
* the renewal of the AQ BCS status for the conference
* waive the exit fee if more team bolt and the conference loses AQ status
* a definite home for the other sports that doesn't involve the Big Sky or West Coast conferences
* regional teams in the conference.  No, Texas and Florida are not in the region, I mean BYU, AFA, Nevada, and other nearby states* just exactly how much money will BSU lose by leaving the MWC and gain by joining the BE?
* the TV contract and media deal, ah, this is the big Kahuna!  The MWC has a horrible one, Boise wants national TV exposure."

You have got some good points there, that being said there are some of them that just can't be done.  You can't guarantee a school won't leave, that is simply impossible.  The only way to come close to doing that would be to hike the exit fee into the stratosphere (ie 25-30 million).  The renewal of the AQ status won't happen for a couple of years and the Big East really has no control over that, as that is something governed by the BCS and not the Big East.  The Big East can only ensure it meets the qualifications.  I agree on the waiver of the exit fee stipulation and helping the football only schools find a decent conference for other sports.  As for regional teams, I do believe that BYU has already been pushed by the western schools, but whether or not we can get them would be another matter.  I concur that Nevada should be considered as a football only backup to BYU, but honestly I don't think that the Texas Schools are such a big inconvenience (had TCU stayed in the MWC we would've been dealing with that anyways). 

Even though it is risky with the other Big East Schools potentially bolting (although I think that USF will be there no matter what happens) the difference I see between the Big East and the MWC is that the schools coming on board along with the ones that are left all produce winning seasons on a regular basis.  With the MWC we have 2 teams that regularly make the bottom 10 and a total of 4 have a complete history of less than .500.  That means that we have 4 competitors (of a total of 10) in this mix that lose more often than not in their entire history.

The Big East on the other hand even including all of the new additions would put us in a conference where all but 2 of our opponents would be over .500 in their total history and the only 2 (of a total of 12) who didn't do better than .500 (and they just barely miss the mark) and that is UConn who didn't even have an FBS football program until 2000 and SMU who had the dreaded death penalty in the 80s and has taken them years to rebuild.  Give each of them a couple more seasons though and I'm sure they will do .500 or better overall.  So in that sense even though we wouldn't be getting earth shattering boosts on the top end, we do much better by getting rid of our SOS killers that you can beat by 50 points and still kill you in the standings. 

Also as mentioned we get rid of that crappy Mountain West TV deal that in the long run will kill Boise State as a program by limiting our exposure.  IMHO that is almost enough of a reason for us to leave the Mountain West in and of itself.  It's only been one season and already I want that stupid network to die.  How intelligent to pass by media offers from the large networks carried on Sat and Cable networks nationwide to start your own network that is only carried on regional cable services or Direct TV (Sorry if you have Dish Network or have cable outside the Rocky Mountain Region, you are screwed and cannot get the channel) and to say nothing of the fact that fans have to pay through the nose to have a combination of ESPN, CBS Sports, Versus and the Mountain to watch all 12 of the Boise State games.  It's just plain stupid. 



Since: Sep 28, 2008
Posted on: October 27, 2011 1:16 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

* the status of WVU, Louisville and any other rats looking to escape the Titanic.
* the renewal of the AQ BCS status for the conference
* waive the exit fee if more team bolt and the conference loses AQ status
* a definite home for the other sports that doesn't involve the Big Sky or West Coast conferences
* regional teams in the conference.  No, Texas and Florida are not in the region, I mean BYU, AFA, Nevada, and other nearby states* just exactly how much money will BSU lose by leaving the MWC and gain by joining the BE?
* the TV contract and media deal, ah, this is the big Kahuna!  The MWC has a horrible one, Boise wants national TV exposure
-WVU is already gone. And the Big East can't guarantee schools like UConn and Louisville will stay in the conference.
-The Big East wil probably lose its BCS status since WVU is leaving and the conference doesn't have good football depth currently.
-They also won't/can't guarantee a home for all of your other sports outside of football in other conferences.

-More regional teams in the Big East around Idaho would just make the Big East officials look dumber than they already are. It's called the Big East. They're already stupid for going after Boise State. A team from out west. 

-A national TV contract?  Yeah right. That's why Notre Dame isn't in the Big East. So they can have their national TV contract. The Big East couldn't even get a national TV contract with what is going to be the "old Big East". Do you honestly think they'd be able to get one for Boise State?  maybe in BSU dreams. 




 



Since: Sep 22, 2011
Posted on: October 27, 2011 12:47 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

I'm with tbrown.  We can sit here and bemoan the state of college athletics and continue to get no where or we can have the University Presidents do what is in the best interests of their schools.  It's simple laws of human nature if you can do the same job and make more money elsewhere, are you going to turn it down because you are going to "fight the system"?  Bullcrap, you are going to do what it takes to take your school, team, etc. to the highest level and increase it's revenue options.  Honestly I blame the other Big 5 conferences for this Geographic Mess.  What has happened is that they have reached out to gobble up any and all cash cows regardless of location (As mentioned Colorado in the PAC12, The Big 10 scooping up Nebraska and the SEC picking up Texas A&M).  The problem is that this is contributing to a larger and larger disparity between the AQs and the non-AQs and as such with opportunities for the Non-AQs to make the big bucks instead of struggling to attain perfection year after year just to be able to get a small portion of the funding given to the BCS Conferences (anyone else think it is absolutely stupid that a NON-AQ wins a BCS Bowl against a top BCS opponent and the losing BCS opponent and conference still take home more money?.  Call it greed, call it selling out, call it whatever but if you are a Non-AQ who wants to continue to build and develop a program and an opportunity comes your way are you going to turn it down simply because of Geography?  Furthermore if you are an organization that stands to lose millions in annual revenue and the loss of a bunch of academic institutions if you have an ounce of brain power don't you try to preserve it?  I understand the Geographical mess but as mentioned this was started among teams within the Big 5 power conferences and certain teams, so they have no one to blame but themselves for leaving the Big East and the Non-AQs with these kinds of options. 



Since: Dec 13, 2006
Posted on: October 27, 2011 12:31 pm
 

Big East officials visit Air Force, Boise State

Do the Big East Officials have a map?
Yes, one showing how to get to the bank.  This is all about money, not geography.  As a Boise fan, we've been down this road before, all excited about going to the MWC, only to see Utah, BYU and TCU hit the exits.  Now we have to decide whether or not to abandon our seat yet again for the next round of musical chairs.

I, for one, would like the Big East to guarantee this:

* the status of WVU, Louisville and any other rats looking to escape the Titanic.
* the renewal of the AQ BCS status for the conference
* waive the exit fee if more team bolt and the conference loses AQ status
* a definite home for the other sports that doesn't involve the Big Sky or West Coast conferences
* regional teams in the conference.  No, Texas and Florida are not in the region, I mean BYU, AFA, Nevada, and other nearby states* just exactly how much money will BSU lose by leaving the MWC and gain by joining the BE?
* the TV contract and media deal, ah, this is the big Kahuna!  The MWC has a horrible one, Boise wants national TV exposure.


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