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Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:27 am
Edited on: September 17, 2011 9:31 am
 

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. – The Atlantic Coast Conference has received letters of application from Pittsburgh and Syracuse, a high ranking league official told CBSSports.com.

The ACC also has recently been contacted by 10 schools, the official said. However, they would not disclose what conferences those schools were from. 

Also, at last week’s ACC presidents meeting in Greensboro, N.C., the league’s presidents “unanimously” voted to increase the ACC’s exit fee to $20 million. This takes affect immediately.

The New York Times reported Friday that Syracuse, Pitt and the ACC had been in talks about the two Big East schools joining the league. Representatives from all three declined comment to the Times.

ACC commissioner John Swofford has said previously that the ACC will always be mindful and do what’s best for its member institutions.”



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Since: Mar 19, 2008
Posted on: September 18, 2011 12:37 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

Wow, there are a lot of morons out there, do you guys seriously see Florida St trustees wanting to shell out the new $20 million dollar fee to leave the conf? The ACC will be staying together, sorry SEC, you should have gone after FSU before the payout number increased. Swofford just duped Slive big time. For those bashing the ACC, yes, they have been mediocre recently but apparently you dont understand that you have to see what they have done THIS year and not 5 years ago. The schools in the ACC as a whole are doing MUCH better (well, except Duke and BC, but somebody had to win that game). No, they aren't SEC level yet but I believe they have reached Big 10 level if you look at how the season has gone so far. Things will improve for the ACC but they WONT lose FSU, write it down.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 6:04 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

I still prefer WVU if we add a team, but I trust that Slive will bring in the right team/teams. 
It's either West Virginia or Missouri to get to 14 now.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 6:00 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

SEC
SEC picks up three.  Florida State (Florida's objection won't be strong enough), NC State and VA Tech if Virginia politics allow it.  If not Clemson.  I just don't believe the SEC can pull UNC/Duke, who will not split up.
Not Gonna Happen;  West Virginia or Missouri.  Both are Yankee schools and it does matter to member schools, even if it is left unsaid in public.  Sorry Cinci and Louisville ain't on the SEC/ACC/Big TEN radar.
Not going to happen. Florida is joined by objections from South Carolina, Georgia, Kentucky and Alabama against Florida State. N.C. State won't split from Duke and Carolina. Virginia Tech doesn't want to leave the ACC, regardless of Virginia politics. Clemson will also be objected to by the bloc of the four non-Tennessee SEC East schools.

West Virginia and Missouri are actually BOTH going to happen if the SEC wants to get to 16. They can't do it without both of those schools. None of the ACC schools are going anywhere. Maryland has no interest in the Big Ten.



Since: Mar 28, 2007
Posted on: September 17, 2011 2:11 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

Lord, two more Big East refugees. What's next, Snookie and The Situation will show up?



Since: Mar 19, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 1:39 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

Nice try, mildcat fan! You've got a lot of basketball conference championships and NCAA tournament appearances...

1. Your conference used basketball as a way to put 12 extra football players on scholarship...you certainly should have won all those conference titles in a conference that didn't care about the only game that you cared about, until the 1990's.
2. Many of those NCAA tournament appearances were in the years that the NCAA was secondary to the NIT.
3. Many of those NCAA tournament appearances would be vacated for any other team (come on...you had players ARRESTED for SHAVING POINTS, and still got to keep your record and championship from that season)
4. You play in an outstanding football conference, and haven't won it in 35 years, and haven't really made a play for the conference football title in at least 30.

Keep dreaming that your teams have done really anything of consequence. 



Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 12:48 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

Time for the Big Ten to make a counter offer to Pitt or Syracuse (or both) or miss out on the chance to expand their East Coast presence (or make an offer to Maryland). I'd like to see a second school from the East in the Big Ten so Penn State isn't so lonely.



Since: Nov 23, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 12:34 pm
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

What this tells me is that the ACC has no shot at the big football schools from the Big 12.  Why else would they downgrade an already bad football conference with 2 Big East teams?



Since: Aug 9, 2010
Posted on: September 17, 2011 11:52 am
 

Pitt, 'Cuse (and 10 more) send ACC letters of app

Disclaimer:  I don't think 16 team "Super-Conferences" are a good idea.  It won't be good for college footbal in the long run.  IF this happens in twenty years we will see them break up.      

The key statement is; "The ACC has been contacted by 10 schools."  Regardless if there is a PAC16 or the Big 12 implodes, the ACC will make moves based on the SEC.  

ACC
The ACC could lose as many as four schools, three to the ACC and one to the Big TEN (Maryland) I'll get to that in a minute.  Some on these boards had predicted the Big East would raid the ACC.  I see this article as proof that the ACC is still stronger than the Big East. Besides 'Cuse and Pitt, I predict it's actually UConn and Rutgers that are on the ACC radar first.  So that puts them back to 12.  The ACC then will want to grow to stay with the SEC.

Kansas/Kansas State/Missouri could happen depending on the Big TEN.  Don't miss 'Nova or Temple.  One of these two could find a home in the ACC.  Finally reluctantly they could end up with West Virginia. Reluctant because the academics doesn't fit the ACC (or Big TEN) profile.  Texas? - maybe, just hard to accept.

IF the Big 12 stays together, and the SEC only adds one school, the ACC will still look to expand.  They will at least go to 14 which would require them to add three schools, four if Maryland were to leave.  The ACC adds UConn/Rutgers/Syracuse and then Pitt.  Don't sleep on UCF or South Florida.
Not Gonna Happen:  Cincinnati, Louisville, East Carolina.

SEC
SEC picks up three.  Florida State (Florida's objection won't be strong enough), NC State and VA Tech if Virginia politics allow it.  If not Clemson.  I just don't believe the SEC can pull UNC/Duke, who will not split up.
Not Gonna Happen;  West Virginia or Missouri.  Both are Yankee schools and it does matter to member schools, even if it is left unsaid in public.  Sorry Cinci and Louisville ain't on the SEC/ACC/Big TEN radar.

BIG TEN
Big Ten expansion depends as much on the PAC 12 as the SEC.  IF both expand, the Big TEN will make moves.  First they will consider a Kansas/Missouri Combo.  Besides sowing up the KC and St Louis markets, it fits the geography, and this strengthens their basketball profile (Still a consideration for the Big TEN and the ACC).  Then they will pursue and probably land Maryland.  If so they will pick one from the Big East, or if they don't land Maryland, they will pick both Rutgers and Syracuse.  All Big TEN schools considered are AAU member colleges.   
Not Gonna Happen; Notre Dame.

PAC 12
I didn't think Larry Scott would take Oklahoma/Oklahoma State without Texas/Texas Tech.  Still not convinced, but it doesn't look like Texas will give up their network or combine it with a conference.  IF the Oklahoma/Oklahoma State move happens, and Texas won't budge, look for Kansas/Kansas State combo - depending on Big TEN.  Texas Tech next in line.  Texas or Texas/Missouri could go to ACC or maybe the Big TEN Both are AAU schools.  
Not Gonna Happen;  BYU.  They won't take an religious based schools.

Big 12
I hope they stay together and add some schools like BYU, TCU, SMU, and Houston, maybe bring Colorado State with BYU.  CSU could be a good program in this setting.

Big East 
To Big East fans - I don't have anything against the Big East.  I am a Notre Dame fan.  I am not an ACC fan, but they are a stronger conference.  There's a reason Boston College/VA Tech/Miami left.  IF the Big 12 goes away, the Big East will lose to the ACC and will get whatever the ACC doesn't want.  Could be Kansas State, Iowa State, and maybe Kansas.  Maybe SMU joins TCU.  IF Big East loses enough top football schools they will lose their automatic bid and TCU may leave.  IF that happens...

New Southwest
It won't be an auto qualifier, but rather than stay as the Big 12 or join the Mountain West, the Texas schools Baylor, Texas Tech join SMU, TCU, Houston, Rice along with Tulane, Tulsa, and maybe Iowa State (and Kansas State if they didn't find a home), are forced to form up a new conference.  BYU would stay independent.  Colorado State might consider joining.  

Left out?
Louisville and Cinci could rejoin Conference USA or may stay with Big East because of basketball appeal.  IF they don't find a place with the ACC, UCF and USF could lose out and be religated to a non auto qualifier conference.  Kansas State must hope that the Big 12 stays together or they are combined with Kansas to the ACC.  If not K State and Iowa State to a depleted Big East.  At that point they would be better off in a new Southwest conference.


Ultimately, I hope most of this doesn't happen.  I hope the Big 12 stays together.  If the NCAA can tell conferences that they must have twelve teams to conduct a championship, I don't understand why they can't limit the size of the conferences for the future of the game. In my opinion the NCAA put all of this in motion when they created the 12 team = conference championship rule.  
 


 



Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: September 17, 2011 11:37 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

One reason will not be academics. In that regard they fit right in



Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: September 17, 2011 11:13 am
 

Pitt, Syracuse send ACC letters of application

I have to say this is very interesting... I would miss Big East B-Ball tremendously and HOPE that Jamie Dixon wouldn't leave because of this? I've mentioned this before but the ACC and Big East need to merge and drop some of the dead weight basically non-football schools (DePaul / Marquette / Georgetown) 20 team Conference (obviously with my info below the UVA - VTech might be a problem

ACC North

BC
Pitt
Syracuse
UCONN
Maryland
WVU
Cincinatti
Villanova
Louisville
UVA

ACC South

VTech
UNC
Duke
GT
Miami
FSU
Wake
NCState
Clemson
USF




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