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OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Posted on: September 8, 2011 9:53 pm
Edited on: September 9, 2011 1:18 am

STILLWATER, Okla. – Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis told Thursday his school is focused on remaining in the Big 12. However, he would not speculate on the Cowboys’ future if Texas A&M leaves the league.

“I think [the Big 12] can exist,” Hargis said. “I don’t think it’s a fait accompli A&M is gone. Obviously the SEC had a string on their bid.”

Hargis said if Texas A&M leaves, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are “not necessarily” headed to the Pac-12. “That’s a hypothetical, but we want 10 teams [in the Big 12].”

What could push the Sooners and Cowboys to the Pac-12?

“At this point, we’re focused on the Big 12 going forward,” Hargis said before Oklahoma State’s game with, ironically, Pac-12 member Arizona. “I wouldn’t want to get into [the possibility of the Pac-12]. That’s a hypothetical and a hypothetical. It’s just not anything we’re real focused on right now.”

An Oklahoma State source told that OSU would not sue Texas A&M or the SEC if Texas A&M left.

Since Texas A&M announced it was leaving the Big 12, Baylor President Ken Starr threatened to sue the SEC and Commissioner Mike Slive for tortious interference. The SEC released a statement before Starr's threat. It read in part:

“After receiving unanimous written assurance from the Big 12 on Sept. 2 that the Southeastern Conference was free to accept Texas A&M to join as a new member, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC met last night with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. We were notified [Tuesday] afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action.”

Hargis said he didn’t believe the SEC thought the conference could waive the rights of the individual institutions.

“Only the regents can waive [legal] claims of the university,” Hargis said. “The conference can’t do it, the presidents can’t do it. I think as far as conference was concerned there was no intention to take any action.”

Hargis said he wasn’t aware of a timetable when this all gets resolved. Oklahoma President David Boren estimated it would take less than three weeks.

“We’d all like to resolve it that fast but I don’t know a timetable,” Hargis said. “There’s no big rush. Everyone has to work through and get their conditions on the table and move forward.

“We have 10 really good schools. We had a close call with A&M. All of us wanted them to stay. The only ones that didn’t want them to stay was A&M, which is kind of a critical point. But hopefully maybe this event will give everyone time to take a deep breath.”


Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: September 17, 2011 9:53 pm

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

If you remember right Texas shouldn't have to make it equal rights. The schools that left (NU,CU)and the three schools thinking of leaving ( OSU,OU,TAM) all signed a contract (when they became the Big12)stating that whoever makes their own money keeps it. What it is, is that they all thought they would be making more money than the other school but it just so happens it's Texas so they then they get jealous and mad wanting to leave saying it should be equal/shared money. So I think it's not Texas at all. It's a bunch of cry babies not getting what they want causing the Big12 to fall apart. I'm all for Texas they worked hard for their money and they deserve it and I think my school (Kansas) needs to try to stick with them if they end up in a different conference. Also if you remember right the same guy that started the Big10 network used to work in the Big12 and when he mentioned starting the Big12 network all the major schools voted against it and then he was fired. Of course he has the last laugh because he made a lot of money creating the Big10 network and also helped the Pac12 with theirs and now look at their conferences. 

Since: Sep 19, 2010
Posted on: September 10, 2011 12:04 am

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

The only way the Big 12 survives is if they get a new commisioner. Texas has offered equal revenue sharing (finally) as an incentive to not only keep the league's current members (a&m excluded) happy but also to possible new members being recruited. UT wants the LHN, they'll do whatever they can to keep it, and maybe a new conference front man not seen as a UT puppet would help out. A&M has wanted to be in the SEC since Arkansas left but had to wait for the perfect scapegoat, the LHN which they knew about for years and were actually offered a regional partnership in, thats why UT isnt throwing a fit about their departure, but if OU decides to leave the league is dead. They could easily save this league by adding quality if not spectacular schools such as BYU, Pittsburg, even Houston or SMU, because this league is Texas and Oklahoma then the rest (another reason A&M is leaving). I like this anarchy, spices things up, but if I had the power to determine whats about to happen I would do this (and yes Im a UT fan):

1. A&M and Mizzo to the SEC
2. OU and OSU to the PAC 123. UT and Notre Dame to the Big Ten (i know this is virtually impossible but i run this world so i say it happens!)
4. Remaining Big 12 schools merge with MWC keeping AQ

As soon as I determine away to become The ALL POWERFUL RULER of the NCAA ill make it so!

Since: Sep 3, 2011
Posted on: September 9, 2011 11:47 pm

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Well said LSUTiger1978

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Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2011 2:49 pm

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Well said, except for the fact that Oklahoma, Texas and OK State will stick together and most likely Texas Tech.   The fact is recruiting,  Texas and Oklahoma will now have even better means to recruit from two of the four best regions of recruiting in the nation, (and OK State and Texas Tech will pull players along from both regions and enhance their programs playing in the same division as OU and Texas), and one could argue,  Texas and California region, along with Flordia area are the only three areas.   With that said, OU and Texas stand to gain alot with moving to the PAC,   Also Texas A & M by moving to the SEC can now have a better chance at recruiting from a second big region, less Texas and Oklahoma in the fold, (Florida).   Look its about Money and Status,  Texas left the Florida region to Join the Big 8 years ago, and it helped their program in recuiting and status,  they know like OU,  that California is better for them then competing with the SEC powers for players around Florida region and thats a fact!!  By the way its harder for N.D. to leave independent, since they can recruit all over, and promise the kids they will be playing at home,  (via California/Florida/Texas).  Other than making changes to bowl formats,  many of the schools are see what they can force in changes by moving,   I loved the Big 8/Big 12 and the Nebraska/Oklahoma contests of the 70s and 80s,  with Nebraska gone, and Colorado jumping ship its a new beginning for College football.

Since: Dec 10, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2011 1:52 pm

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

hey dan beebe your ship is sinking..... your so called business friend texas is only gonna look out for texas. in the end beebe the jokes on you every major team left in the big12 has a back up option. i know i said in 3-5 year big12 will crumble haha scratch make that 1 to 1 1/2 hey enjoy beebe your conference being on the new every day for someone jumping ship.

you should next time hatch a plan with a team that actually cares about something more than itself......

Since: May 5, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2011 12:40 pm

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

If Mr Hargis had read the letter that Mr Beebe sent to the SEC commish, he could understand how the SEC thought the schools had agreed.  The letter said so...

I think Mr Beebe meant to mislead the SEC knowing somebody would sue them. (maybe even planned)

and if that is true, the SEC may sue the Big 12...


1- aTm forced to pay close to $30 million to the Big 12
2- Baylor's suit vs aTm and SEC thrown out of court for the obvious
3- SEC sues Big 12 for damages
4- aTm gets their share of that when they are admitted to the SEC

Remember Mr Star, Mr Slive is an attorney as well...

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2011 10:45 am

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

no Billiken Bob - it's Tortuous for Baylor!  LOL    Baylor knows they're the odd team out if OU and Texas leave.   The rest of the schools I think have a "plan".   
  And "Yes" - OU and OSU are legally bound at the hip good or bad because they have the same board so would be pretty hard to separate the schools if not impossible.   The MWC or Big East are the options (probably in that order) but I'd actually lean t the Big East since TCU is there, the Big East already has a BCS AQ, and after the ACC and SEC raid to level the conferences, the Big East will need real schools from an AQ Conf to support it's quickly dwindling center.  

The MWC, Big 12, and Big East are all in the same boat in my view.

Since: Apr 14, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2011 10:23 am

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Since Texas A&M announced it was leaving the Big 12, Baylor President Ken Starr threatened to sue the SEC and Commissioner Mike Slive for tortious interference.

The SEC had nothing to do with the LHN so go ahead and waste time and money in court.

Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2011 9:57 am

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Someone is not listening. Oklahoma state has hitched it’s wagon to Oklahoma. Where Oklahoma goes so does Oklahoma State. The other schools to the PAC would be Texas Tech and Texas. If all remember the PAC made an offer to these same teams last season. I have not heard of the PAC withdrawing these invites even after one year.

Missouri to the Big-10 or sec as neither would want to be left in the cold trying to keep up with the PAC and their addition of new members.

As far as throwing up smoke screen, these institutions are too big to be playing games among themselves. Playing games is for those small programs that seem to be left out of the ball game and would be left to find homes in a lesser conference.

One great idea that someone brought up in another post was that the Mountain West acquire what remains of the big-12 after the other larger conferences have had their pickings and acquire the big-12 automatic qualifier status.

This would make sense as the remaining schools are all in close proximity to each other. It would be a lot better than Baylor or Kansas flying all the way to the east coast to play a game. Students might have a better chance at going to an away game.

I think Baylor should get over it. One day you are in agreement and the next day you have changed your mind. What is the motive for this change? You sign a binding contract, then you would want to change your mind. Was there a clause in the contract that would allow you to change your mind. Is this like getting a refinance on your house and having a three day right of recession?


Since: Jul 29, 2009
Posted on: September 9, 2011 1:57 am

OSU: Focused on Big 12, won't speculate on Pac-12

Deboinsky; are you serious bro? If half of what you say is going to happen to conference re-alignment comes to fruition, you should be the next director of the BCS. Oh; wait a minute; there will be no BCS after the 4 superconferences are formed and a playoff is initiated. I think the smoke screen you refer to is the residue from whatever you're smoking this evening.

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