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Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

Posted on: September 3, 2011 1:48 pm
Oklahoma State President Burns Hargis released a statement Saturday regarding Big 12 Conference discussions.

"We want to be clear that we worked actively to encourage Texas A&M to remain in the Big 12 Conference and regret they decided to leave," Hargis said. "We are moving ahead.

"Oklahoma State University's athletic program has never been stronger from top to bottom, putting us in a position to explore and pursue options, including the possible expansion of our current conference. We are in close communications with our colleagues at the University of Oklahoma and expect a decision soon that will be in the best interest of our institutions and the state of Oklahoma."

In other words, if Oklahoma is leaving to the Pac-12/16, Oklahoma State fully expects to go with them.

Hargis' statement comes a day after Oklahoma President David Boren said the Sooners had been contacted by multiple conferences and that the Sooners were not "going to be a wallflower when all is said and done."

Like Hargis, Boren said he tried to prevent Texas A&M from leaving the Big 12. The Aggies are expected to join the SEC.

Boren said the Sooners expect to decide whether to leave in three weeks. He said he flew to Missouri to confer with chancellor Brady Deaton,the chairman of the Big 12 board of directors, and to College Station, Texas, to try to prevent Texas A&M from leaving for the SEC.

Oklahoma was offered chances to join both the Pac-10 and the SEC last year, but decided to stick with the Big 12, even as Nebraska left to join the Big Ten and Colorado joined the Pac-10, now the Pac-12.

"Of course, we have some great partners in the existing Big 12," Boren said. "We have interest from other conferences and other universities, so it's really a tribute to the strength of our program at the University of Oklahoma that there is so much interest in us.

"So, we have to carefully evaluate the various comments that are being made to us and the various possibilities that are being shown to us before we decide what's best for the university to do."


Since: Aug 4, 2008
Posted on: September 6, 2011 3:07 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

I don’t think David Boren,  the President of Oklahoma flew to talk to the Chancellor of Missouri to tell him that Oklahoma would remain in the Big-12. Also I don’t think that Oklahoma State would not agree in principal  to go along with Oklahoma if they two programs were gonna remain a part of the Big-12. These two schools pretty well know what they are gonna do right now.<br /><br />We just have not heard anything or it has not been leaked from members of the Big-12. We are speculating as to the outcome of the members that are seeking information about other conferences, and perhaps leaving the Big-12. We are also  speculating as to what would happen to the remainder members of the conference after half the conference have departed for other conferences.<br /><br />Would the Big-12 retain their automatic qualification status after all these defections? If this is the case then the remaining programs might have a chance at maintaining the Big -12 by adding other members or perhaps merging with the Mountain West in some fashion. <br /><br />Last year the PAC-10 invited many teams of the Big-12 to join the PAC-10. This invitation was never rescinded by the PAC-12.  We are speculating if Oklahoma and the other 3 schools mentioned about leaving the conference would be headed. <br /><br />It is my opinion that Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas and Texas Tech would become members of the PAC-12 following this season.<br /><br />The sec did not close the door to accepting Texas A&M. The sec tabled the idea. Once Texas A&M complete the legal formalities of leaving the Big-12 then they would be offered membership in the sec. With the break up of the Big-12 perhaps the sec would take another school from the Big-12. The program that might fit in the sec would be Missouri. The two Kansas schools might be a package deal thus the sec might not would want one of the programs while coveting the other.<br /><br /><br /><br />“ONE MAN’S OPINION”<br /><br /><br />

Since: Oct 20, 2008
Posted on: September 6, 2011 11:24 am

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

First thought:  OSU would be considered a good program if you consider the past decade.  The obvious upgrade in facilities, continued support by a super donor, a bowl game every year but one since 2002.  Start naming the teams that have that to offer.  When conferences are looking towards expansion they are looking for teams who contribute to the pool of money and TV viewers.  OSU has a following in Tulsa, OKC, and Dallas.  To suggest that their resume leaves them powerless and at the mercy of OU is flat out wrong.  Are there current members of the SEC, PAC-10, and Big 10 who have less to offer?  The answer is an obvious yes.

Second thought:  Does the fact that OSU has plenty to offer on their own make it a good decision to go a different direction then OU?  No, the rivalry is good for both teams and for the State of Oklahoma.  If you don't think that OU benefits from bedlam in all sports then you are an idiot.  How many viewers tune in for bedlam across the country each year?  Football and Big Monday in basketball?  Tons.  Tell me who OU plays in the PAC-12 each year that brings the same thing to the table?  Exactly, nobody.  The traditional rivalry between OU-Texas and OU-OSU are huge and benefit everyone involved.

OU and OSU are in a partnership where they both need each other.  However, both could survive without the other as well.  OU has the stronger program and more bargaining power, but if you think a split wouldn't hurt OU you would be wrong.  OSU has power to take care of themselves without following OU, but again a split would hurt them as well and would not be a good idea.  Their partnership is necessary and the rivalry is fun.

Since: Dec 29, 2009
Posted on: September 6, 2011 10:43 am

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

Your rivalry goggles are distorting your view. Oklahoma State has consistently been in the top 25 for numerous years now. They consistently compete at the top level and represent the Big XII well. While they are not a national football powerhouse at the level of the Sooners, that does not make them JC plus, nor a small regional program. I am always amazed that people think they have to put another program down to build another up. The fact that a state with a smaller population like Oklahoma has a dominat program like OU and a strong program like OSU is impressive, particularly when you have a program like Tu;lsa poaching off good players and playing good football in a mid-major conference. OSU can compete with the other schools in the PAC-12. They beat Arizona 36-10 in their bowl game last year and the Wildcats were in the upper tier of the PAC-12. I am interested to see if the SEC makes a major play for OU/OSU or not. I think Texas and OU will stick together in the end and move with Oklahoma STate and Texas Tech and form the PAC-16 in the end.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: September 5, 2011 11:30 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

OSU is not recruiting top athletes.  They occassionally recruit A top athlete.

OSU is at the bottom of academics in the BIG XII, they are even lower than some SEC schools.  No med school or law school makes them a JC+

OSU is not a national program, they are a small regional program.

OSU isn't calling any shots, other than saying they are baggage.

OU and Texas are the national programs of major interest and power.  OSU saying they will do whatever OU wants is a forgone conclusion.

Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: September 3, 2011 6:32 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

Izzone: Hmm, worthless?  LMAO at you!  They've won 50 NCAA championships (3rd nationally) and finally with world-class facilities that enable them to recruit top athletes, OSU is also competitive in football as well.  In case you hadn't noticed, they've been ranked in the top ten several times in each of the last three years.  If you want to see worthless, you need go no further than your bathroom mirror.

Since: Jan 21, 2010
Posted on: September 3, 2011 4:59 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

No, the Shockers are up north at Wichita State.

Since: Sep 23, 2006
Posted on: September 3, 2011 4:06 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

What else are they going to do? They're worthless by themselves!

Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: September 3, 2011 2:17 pm

Oklahoma State's thoughts on Big 12 future

Such a shocker, huh?

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