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Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

Posted on: June 17, 2011 4:24 pm
Edited on: June 17, 2011 4:45 pm

Charlie Strong was hired at Louisville on Dec. 9, 2009. So he obviously did not coach the Cardinals during the 2009-10 season. But don’t tell the NCAA that, because according to how the NCAA computes the Academic Progress Rate (APR) scores, Strong was just as responsible for the Cardinals’ low APR score as former coach Steve Kragthorpe.

Because Strong was at the school during the 2009-10 school year, the NCAA gives Strong and Kragthorpe equal credit for the Cardinals’ APR score that year.

UL’s 869 APR out of 1,000 was the worst APR score among the 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools in 2009-10.

In Wednesday’s study of the APR averages of the FBS coaches by, I used the data provided by the NCAA. The coaches year-by-year APR scores are available on the NCAA’s website, if you want to check it out for yourself.

At least two schools – Louisville and UCF – believe the way the NCAA calculates the APR scores for coaches is not fair and misleading. Louisville believes Strong should not be saddled with the 2009-10 score of 869 - the school expects the 2010-11 APR to be significantly better.

UCF also believes Coach George O’Leary should not be credited with the 880 from the 2003-04 year because O’Leary was hired at UCF on Dec. 8, 2003.

UCF felt strongly enough about how the NCAA calculates the coaches APR scores, the school posted a story on its website following the study. UCF's story did not include O'Leary's 2003-04 880 APR score. Louisville officials prefered not to comment for this story.

Based on the NCAA’s data, Strong ranked as the coach with the worst APR in FBS. Three other coaches that had the nation’s seven-worst coaching APRs – Akron’s Rob Ianello (900), Memphis’ Larry Porter (903) and Buffalo’s Jeff Quinn (918) – also were credited for a dismal APR score even though they arrived after that football season had been completed.

I e-mailed NCAA spokesman Eric Christianson Thursday, asking for an explanation why the NCAA computes the APR’s of the coaches that way. When I receive a response, I will let you know.


Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 19, 2011 9:18 am

Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

Dustbag, Kragthorpe was the coach for the 1st semester of the 2009-2010 school year.  Strong was the coach for the 2nd semester of the 2009-2010 school year.  In it's infinite wisdom, the NCAA shares the score between the two coaches.  This is not rocket science.  I was busting on the author's moronic stance that Strong should not be responsible for any of the 2009-2010 school year because he was not the coach during the 2009 season (1st semester of 2009-2010).  Maybe you should re-read the article.

It is all idiotic anyway, as APR's should follow schools and not coaches.  Funny how OSU's APR is 976 and Tressel's is only 960.  I wonder how that happened, CBS?  Amazing what happens when you resign right at the end of a school term. 

Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: June 18, 2011 8:11 am

Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

Apparently the concept of a coach not being responsible for what happens at a school for the entire 11 months before he gets there.  Is just a tad to complicated for to follow.  It's ok buddy just read the article 2 or 3 more times nice, and slowly.  Hopefully you'll understand then.

Since: May 27, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2011 7:56 pm

Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

I think you missed the point. Did ypou ever play ateam sport beyond elementary shool? Or were you one of those home school phenoms. Get a life.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2011 7:32 pm

Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

Oh I get it now!  The author must think football players are only students during football season.  Now it all makes sense.  Poor Charlie.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: June 17, 2011 7:25 pm

Schools: NCAA's APR data for coaches not fair

I feel for a guy like Charlie Strong who inhereits a crappy APR situation, but for Louisville to bitch about it is laughable.  Did U of L not employ both Kragthorpe and Strong?  Come on Louisville, take it like men.  Own up to it, address it and make it better.

Also, where is the logic in thinking a coach bears no responsibility for poor APR performance because he arrived on the job in December (after the first semester).  What, does spring semester not count because he is new on the job?  This article is completely asinine.

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